Since April was National Poetry Month, most of us picked up the first poetry collection we’ve read in a long time. Why don’t we read more of it? What makes it so intimidating? What have we loved in the past? I mean, I can think of plenty of poets we read in school who I adored, so why am I such a chicken about reading more poetry?
I think you said it right there: “in school”. Even with the poets I loved, and I went through a serious phase with Sylvia Plath’s Ariel, it always felt like I needed the guidance of a teacher first.
I can see the needing a teacher part, but there is also the connotation of school equating with “work”. As an English major in college I feel as if I read enough poetry to last the rest of my life. It was beautiful and I loved it but it was enough to show me that I prefer prose. Which is not to say that I don’t love everything Mary Oliver writes, I just don’t seek it out.
I think that poetry takes a different mindset and reading style than those needed for reading novels, non-fiction, or even essays. I know for myself I read so. many. things that aren’t poetry that it’s really really hard to reset my mind to slow down and to read the poetry properly. Fast readers = bad poetry readers.
I’m with you. I’m a fast reader but appreciate prose that forces me to slow down. Poetry goes beyond even that to the the level of word which is not easy to do. We talked last week about how a weak ending could derail a book, but in poetry it could be one word that doesn’t work.
That theory about fast readers being bad poetry readers might be a thing. I usually read in a lickety-split manner. Slowing down is difficult for me. Also, reading poetry in school turned me off of the genre. I was taught that you have to dig for the deeper meaning, that the words mean more than the words. That might be true but it sure made me feel as if it was all over my head. It makes me think of that blue curtain meme:
Totally agree on the need to slow down. So much so that I’ve found I enjoy poetry most when it’s read to me (as long as it’s not read in “poetry voice”). The Button Poetry channel on YouTube is pretty incredible and I’ve listened to poems like Lily Myers’ “Shrinking Woman” and Danez Smith’s “Not an Elegy for Mike Brown” over and over again. They made me realize what I’d been missing out on by tossing poetry aside.
Claudia Rankine’s Citizen, which we’re discussing on Wednesday, was one of the first collections I read in years. I’m not sure how it compares to the lot of what’s out there now, but it definitely made me more willing to start picking up poetry on my own.
As I started reading Citizen was nervous.I thought I wouldn’t get it. As I mentioned above, poetry intimidates me. Citizen has certainly changed my perception. I got it. I felt it.
Citizen is harder and easier than I expected it to be. On one hand it’s not a whole lot like classic poetry to me—it feels more like mini-short stories, which doesn’t raise the same problems that I talked about above. On the other hand, the subject matter really punches you in the gut, and that’s probably enhanced by the brevity of the poems (or ‘stories’ as I choose to see them).
I don’t know if others feel this way, but there’s a part of me that is afraid I don’t have the “qualifications” to review poetry “properly.” I’m a little more apt to read it than discuss it. But does poetry need to be reviewed in a studious way, or can it be a personal response to the art form?
I think that I see what you mean here, but just like I said above the same way you need a different mindset for reading poetry I think it takes a completely different type of review. I’m not sure what that format is—but it’s definitely not the traditional review form. I almost feel like poetry isn’t meant to be reviewed—it’s meant to be discussed.
I read two poetry collections last year that I absolutely loved and wanted to shout about endlessly, but didn’t review them on my blog. Even though I don’t necessarily feel qualified to write about the novels I read, I’ve read enough to know how to break something down. I feel like poetry is a whole other world. I know enough to enjoy it and definitely feel something from it, but have no idea how to talk about it in a way that feels adequate.
I hate to be the crass one in the group but even if I did read poetry I’m not sure I would review it because it doesn’t come up as something readers want to hear more about. It’s a very small audience. I do think it would make for an interesting book club session.
This is a good point, I read a Margaret Atwood poetry collection last year (both for National Poetry Month and for my Margaret Atwood project) and instead of trying to review the whole collection I posted one of the poems that really spoke to me and tried to get a conversation going on it—it never really took off.
Maybe seeing more posts from people enthusiastic about poetry would encourage others to read it? Knock down some preconceived ideas?
Again, let me mention that we’ve been taught to be intimidated by poetry. It’s too bad that many of us feel we can’t enjoy reading or talking about it without thinking that we’re inadequate to do so. Maybe it’s just me, but I feel like a giant poser when I even try. How can I get over that? Help!
So, how do you feel about reading poetry? Why do you think so many readers avoid it? Have you found a way to read or talk about poetry that works for you?
May 4, 2015 at 8:11 am
I would say my avoidance of poetry is pure laziness. I used to read and enjoy it much more, but now when I have time to read I pick up something that takes less effort. Poetry does seem to have something of an affinity with youth — the petty cares and concerns of middle age are filling my days and pushing it out of my life. I should really do something about that.
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May 4, 2015 at 3:12 pm
It’s interesting that poetry can be so short and quick, but seems to take so much more effort. I’m not sure I ever give it its due, which could be part of the reason I’m reluctant to share my opinions on it.
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May 4, 2015 at 9:04 am
This is a great discussion. I love poetry but I find myself really skipping over it a lot so I can read more novels and non-fiction. It is the same with short stories. I think that’s why April so important because like Monika said it is about the one time of year we really make sure we reach for the poetry. I always participate in Serena’s Poetry Tours during April so I focus on it more. One thing I have learned is that I am not into modern poetry very much. I prefer Poe, Emerson, Hughes, Kipling, Dickinson, Neruda, Pound, Bradstreet, Sexton. I think Maya Angelou is the only modern poet I really love. But even with all these favorites I find I have to really make myself read them. Once I do, I love it, but it is not something I fall into naturally like I do with novels and nonfiction. It’s very curious.
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May 4, 2015 at 9:37 am
You’ve mentioned a whole list of authors that I need to read more of. I’ve enjoyed some of them but haven’t tried them all. Who would you recommend over all others?
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May 4, 2015 at 8:31 pm
Yeats. I love me some Yeats but let’s face it – I need help to fully ‘get’ him. 🙂 He’s deliciously dark though.
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May 6, 2015 at 7:09 am
Poe, Hughes, and Neruda. And Angelou. 🙂
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May 4, 2015 at 9:26 am
I DEFINITELY shy away from poetry. It’s like my eyes just glaze over, and that’s that. I’m planning on reading Citizen (probably later today or tomorrow), as the topic certainly interests me. As you all discussed above, I just have these terrible flashbacks of reading poetry in high school, and then having to do these word matching tests of which specific word came from which specific poem… I mean, really people, what does that have to do with anything? Plus, I used to write SUPER angsty poetry back in my early teen years, and I still haven’t quite gotten over THAT embarrassment 😉
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May 4, 2015 at 9:33 am
Ha ha ha! Oh, girl. I am with you on that angsty teen poetry. If any of the stuff I wrote came to light I’d absolutely die of embarrassment.
I’m glad to hear that you’ll be reading Citizen!
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May 4, 2015 at 9:00 pm
OMG. We should make that a confession feature: Angsty Teenage Poetry – PUBLISHED (on the web) … maybe a major publishing house would pick us up. 😉
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May 5, 2015 at 1:09 am
Maybe I’d contribute anonymously, and from a public computer, and dressed in disguise. 🙂
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May 4, 2015 at 11:19 am
Very timely post. I’ve never been a reader of poetry. I think all of the thoughts about about slowing down are on point. I think I relate to that and the generally not “getting” poetry. I’m not sure if it’s something that can actually be taught or not, but I don’t have “it.” But I wanted to read Citizen and I loved it, but I agree with April that much of it was more like stories. There were also parts of Citizen I didn’t get, but that was ok. I don’t mind not getting it, but I don’t want to spend a whole book not getting it. If I can enjoy and feel several pieces in a collection, I’m fine with that. It’s finding those collections that’s the issue.
Someone on Twitter posted a fabulous poem recently and I loved it enough I tracked down the collection at the library. Rebecca Lindenberg’s Love, An Index was written about her love for her partner, a well-known poet, and his disappearance while hiking a volcano in Japan. Again, there were straight “POETRY” parts that lost me, but parts of it were wonderful. I was glad I read it and I’m going to try and read more. So thanks to Claudia Rankine and that twitterer for opening my eyes a bit. Thanks to you all for discussing it, I feel in better company!
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May 4, 2015 at 1:08 pm
I’m with you on wanting to try more, and seeking out some that’s not straight poetry (which still doesn’t quite appeal to me). I read Gabriel by Edward Hirsch last year after hearing about it on Literary Disco and it was so ridiculously good…I need to find more like that.
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May 4, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Yes the bit
where the words are spaced
unevenly completely
LOSES ME. 🙂
Thanks for the word on GABRIEL, I just looked it up at my library and found that Hirsch has also written a book called How to Read a Poem : And Fall in Love with Poetry. May give that a try as well.
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May 4, 2015 at 1:15 pm
Well, Disqus doesn’t like poetry formatting either, because it fixed my poetry example, dammit! But you know what I’m talking about, I’m sure.
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May 4, 2015 at 11:22 am
The thought that we’re taught to be intimidated by poetry is heart-breaking, but also true. Unlike prose, there is an associated *vocabulary* to poetry that we’re led to believe is necessary for enjoyment and discussion. (Prose has a glossary too, but smaller and mostly optional.) It’s funny to me that a form that is meant to convey feelings and ideas is often the most academically picked-over. There’s sort of a stigma to starting a discussion with “I like this” and not worrying about whether the reason why can be found in a poetic dictionary.
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May 4, 2015 at 4:05 pm
I think that you’ve hit the nail on the head here – not being able to access that vocabulary easily makes the whole premise seem so much more daunting.
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May 4, 2015 at 11:45 am
I know that I don’t know much about poetry, and I worry that I will not ‘get’ it, but I think the main reason I read very little of it is because I prefer to read longer stories. It’s the same reason I don’t read a lot of short story collections, but even more so. I want to spend my precious little reading time reading what I most want to read. Maybe, someday, if I have more time, I will read a wider variety of things. I really think I could like it!
Someone who does a fantastic job talking about poetry on her blog is Carolyn at Rosemary and Reading Glasses. She posts something about poetry every Tuesday, and I am so glad she does – it gives me a weekly poetry boost. 🙂
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May 5, 2015 at 7:50 pm
Thanks for the reminder about Carolyn’s poetry posts!
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May 4, 2015 at 11:51 am
I’ve never been a poetry person. Overall they just don’t do much for me (I’m definitely too impatient to be a poetry reader) but I know there are poems out there – they have to be – that would speak to me, if only I could find them. The closest one I’ve found is probably Robert Frost’s “Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening”… and even then, part of the reason I enjoy it is because I associate it with a specific setting of it from my choir days.
(Which brings up another point. Songs are essentially poems set to music. Why are these so much more accessible? Is it just because they aren’t studied in English class and so we aren’t taught to fear them? Or is the music itself the key?)
I’ve started reading out loud to my son, and the first book I picked up (one of the ones we got at his shower, so something I wasn’t familiar with) turned out to be a poetry book. As soon as I realized that, I immediately set it down for something else. This is probably something I should get over, but I already feel so silly reading out loud, and the idea of reading poetry – even kids’ poetry – makes me even more self-conscious.
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May 4, 2015 at 8:30 pm
It took me awhile to get over the ridiculousness of reading aloud. I still have problems (four years later) with hating kid lit in general. I think I’ve finally abandoned myself however. At four we recently checked out ‘Vile Verses’ by Roald Dahl, which is a collection of all his kids poetry ever (out of all his novels, etc.) and I have a really good time with it. Obviously this isn’t useful for an infant, but do keep it in mind (so you don’t lose your mind) as the wee one gets older. 😉
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May 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm
I will agree with everyone else who feels like they just don’t get it when it comes to poetry, almost like I’m a reading another language. Admittedly, I gravitate towards plot and story, so even lyrical/poetic prose often frustrates me. I prefer writing that is simple and sparse – the “less is more” mentality. I would imagine there is some poetry that falls in that category but I wouldn’t even begin to know how to find it.
I also had to wonder how much semantics are at play here. If Citizen had been classified or marketed as a book of essays, how much more accessible would it have been? I don’t think it would have been completely mischaracterized as essays (with a poetic bent, for sure). Maybe the genre is more varied than I realized? When I think poetry I think of something Emily Dickinson-esque, which makes me want to run for the hills, but also reveals how out of touch I am with modern poetry. 🙂
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May 4, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Oh, that’s a great question about how books are marketed. I really wonder if that would sway people. I’m thinking about some books that probably could have been considered poetry, too (like When Women Were Birds by Terry Tempest Williams), but I loved them as essays.
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May 4, 2015 at 3:16 pm
I like reading poems, although I gravitate towards older and more traditional poetry. I’m happy to say that my teachers were not able to beat the enjoyment of poetry out of me, although they tried. (I completely agree with that blue curtain meme.) While I post a poem once a month, I don’t try to interpret it or tell anyone how it should make them feel or even how it makes me feel. To me, poetry is very personal, so I don’t expect any feedback on these posts either. I just hope that maybe someone reads and enjoys the poem as much as I do. The great part about not reading for school anymore is that you can read as much or as little into a poem as you want to. In that respect, it’s not that different from any other book, especially if the book is considered a classic.
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May 4, 2015 at 4:37 pm
LOL at that Venn Diagram
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May 4, 2015 at 5:27 pm
I used to write and read poetry but abandoned it many, MANY years ago. My husband even gave me a book of love poems for our anniversary one year, and I still cherish it. I do think you hit something with the teacher interpretation. I taught poetry as part of the English curriculum, but I never dove into the interpretation of it. But, the literary devices the students had to pull out of the poetry, the counting, recognizing the elements, along with having to write their own, was enough to turn them off of poetry in general. With that said, I did have a few students who loved writing poetry and uploading their poems online to be published. There was an element of pride in the fact they were “published” authors. Of course, it might have helped that I used Pink Floyd lyrics to teach the poetry. HA! There is certainly a bad stigma that goes with poetry, and that’s a sad fact. Maybe I should revive my former love and rekindle my poetic fire. 😉
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May 4, 2015 at 7:19 pm
@cls413:disqus mentioned the idea that songs are basically just poetry put to music, so it’s interesting that you bring up Pink Floyd lyrics! It’s so strange that we feel so comfortable with lyrics (even interpreting them!), but have such a hard time with poetry.
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May 4, 2015 at 8:22 pm
I don’t dislike poetry but I need to be in a certain mood to get into it. Poetry seems so SERIOUS. 😛
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May 4, 2015 at 8:30 pm
WORD SISTER. 😉
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May 4, 2015 at 8:36 pm
Quite the poet —-> April 😛
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May 4, 2015 at 8:59 pm
I do what I can,
And eat lots of bran. 😉
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May 4, 2015 at 9:15 pm
Don’t make me break out the mod on you before this goes to far.
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May 4, 2015 at 9:23 pm
I’ll see your mod and RAISE you a mod. 😉
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May 5, 2015 at 9:11 am
O man, I love poetry. I think that poetry should be read aloud, particularly to a group and then discussed together. Reading poetry definitely requires a change of mind set and a lot of practice. I hated poetry in high school but when I went to college one of my American lit profs had us read poetry together out loud and then discuss it. I learned how to read and enjoy poetry. What I love most I think is that there is room in poetry for there to be multiple meanings and poems can mean something different to everyone. Part of the group experience is seeing how the words touched others. I agree with a lot of what you guys said up there 🙂 Love this post!
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May 6, 2015 at 8:54 pm
For me, it’s the reading speed thing. It’s hard to slow down enough to really let the poetry sink in. And if you’re not going to spend time with the poem, really live with it, then why read it in the first place?
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May 7, 2015 at 6:13 pm
That’s such a good point, Julie!
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May 8, 2015 at 7:35 pm
I love how everyone interprets poetry differently. That’s what makes it great.
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