Something we’ve started to notice in our discussions is the way people react differently to certain scenes, or even books in general, if they read an audiobook. So, I suppose we should discuss audiobooks a bit: do you listen to them? How do they impact your reading experience?
I have only one thing to say on this topic. I’ve never listened to an audiobook in my life. I’ll just be over here in my shame corner. Carry on….
I could count on one hand how many I’d listened to before having C. We’ve been listening to them more and more now that she enjoys longer stories but can’t yet read them herself. Charlotte’s Web was read by E.B. White himself, which was pretty cool. And we just finished up Roald Dahl’s The BFG, which was read with great enthusiasm by David Walliams. I enjoyed hearing their voices far more than I enjoyed hearing my own; I’m sure C would agree! The bulk of my audiobook enjoyment lately has been children’s books. But hey, they’re high quality reads, so I’m not going to complain too much!
For years audiobooks were only for the purposes of long car trips and were relegated to only what I could find at Cracker Barrel or the library (which meant a lot of trashy novels), but in recent years with the rise of Audible I’ve found myself listening to more and different types of audiobooks.
For a period of time, I would listen to the ‘hard’ books on audio, things that I knew I’d never be able to get through sitting down and reading it. But, the past few months especially, I’ve been using audio to ‘re-read’. I listened to the MaddAddam trilogy, I can’t tell you how many times (at least five full listens of those books… ) I’ve listened to Shirley Jackson’s Haunting of Hill House or We Have Always Lived in the Castle to help me drift off to sleep at night. Now I’m taking on ‘re-reading’ The Dark Tower series by Stephen King on audio, mostly at night before I go to bed.
For years I was a huge fan of audiobooks because of my various commutes to work. They were all that saved me from being on the eleven o’clock news in a road rage incident. I listened to everything but where they worked best for me is nonfiction. I’m not drawn to reading it but listening to someone talk about real events or people was fascinating- kind of like being back in college but without the exams or pressure.
Several years ago, my spouse listened to the unabridged version of Dante’s The Divine Comedy during the daily work commute. Speaking of “hard” books, ha!
Listening is more passive to me than actually reading, so I think people who only ‘read’ audio-books are doing themselves a great disservice. But some books almost require audio. I listened to Amy Poehler’s Yes Please on audio and I think it was probably a fuller experience than reading the book, just because of who Poehler is, the way she chose to record (using other actors to ‘act out’ certain scenes in the book) and there is probably an element of improv in the recording that you’re just not going to find in the book. But outside that very special type of memoir, there’s nothing that’s going to be better on audio. Not to say that it will be worse, just different.
I fit into the audiobooks on car trips category (and even that has started to decrease over time as I’ve upped my podcast game), but I very rarely listen to fiction. I find that I have a hard time staying focused on the narration and drift off, which usually leaves me missing parts of the story.
I hear ya on the drifting off! By the time I have a chance to put headphones on at home, I’m so tired I usually end up falling asleep while listening. Then there’s the frustration of figuring out exactly where that happened. I’m rarely alone in the car, and often when I am I find I just want silence. Listening to my own audiobook choices on a regular basis hasn’t seemed to happen yet, but I keep trying.
I did have one oddball case where I was reading Where’d You Go Bernadette for my book club and could only get an audio version from the library. It ended up being so great! I think it’s similar to the case with Yes Please, maybe having those comedic elements—the way the narrator acted out certain scenes was absolutely hilarious and I’m not sure I would have found them as funny if I was reading on my own.
For me, listening is more active than reading, in that it feels like more effort. I have to really work to pay attention for long periods of time like that. Unless, as you two have mentioned, there’s an element of comedy or a distinct voice I want to hear (as in the case of a memoir). Thinking more about the latter, does anyone else find it jarring when a memoir is narrated by someone other than the author, in the case of a famous personality?
The narrator can make or break a book. I do think it would be odd to hear a memoir read by someone other than the author except…if they had a very poor reading voice. When I was listening to tons of books there were narrators I would not listen to- which puts audiobooks under a tougher standard—not just the content but the sound. In reading the voice is yours.
How many of you are big on audiobooks? Does the narrator impact your enjoyment of the book? Or can you power through a bad narrator if the story is good? Do you think you gain or lose anything by listening to a book instead of reading it in print?
June 8, 2015 at 1:53 am
Over the past few years, since discovering Audible, I have listened to a few dozen audio books. I agree that the narrator makes or breaks the experience of an otherwise good book. Simon Vance is a wonderful narrator, and I agree with April that the narrator of the Shirley Jackson books has done an excellent job. I, too, have listened to these a few times. I have two pet peeves with narration. The first is terrible accents. If a person’s sole experience with accents other than their own is listening to TV and trying to copy what they hear, they should not read audio books for a living. The second is narrators giving voice to characters who are not close to their own age, and doing it badly.
Lately, I have found two good books wrecked by two mediocre narrators: one Australian narrator trying to carry off a Bosnian accent, and the other an American narrator who apparently thinks that Ireland is in some little-known part of eastern Europe where they struggle appallingly over vowels. This same narrator has also never met a child, apparently, who is older than four, as the eight-year-old girl in the story sounded like she was barely past her toddler years. More likely, the narrator just decided to wing it and did not take the time to go sit with a group of eight-year-old girls, or practise with a voice coach. Likewise, I have listened to books where fifty-year-old women sound eighty-five.
Having said all of that, listening to a good book read by a talented narrator is a real treat, and it makes household chores more enjoyable (well, distracts from the dirt, anyway). I do find, though, that I miss details and forget things, and sometimes miss whole sections from zoning out, in a way that I do not do when reading a book myself.
P.S. I live in Australia. I don’t know if people in the U.S. realise this, but we cannot get everything on Audible here that you all can get there. Even if an author’s books are a series, some of the books in the series might be available to us, while others are not. Also, the narrators are frequently different from the U.S. narrators.
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June 8, 2015 at 5:05 pm
So strange about the Australia to US limitations! I wonder why that is…something involving ownership rights, I’d imagine?
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June 8, 2015 at 8:42 pm
Yes, it’s all legalities, but frustrating.
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June 8, 2015 at 3:38 am
I listen to a lot of audio books when I’m walking or exercising – it’s a way of getting me up away from my laptop because I want to listen to the book. But I would always prefer a ‘real’ book. A good audio book does depend on a good narrator, and the problem I often find is male narrators reading female dialogue. It often sounds like they are doing a caricature of a woman or girl. The other irritation with them is not being able to skip back easily; on my phone it’s almost impossible to skip back just a paragraph if I miss something. But, despite those problems, I still love to be able to ‘read’ as I walk.
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June 8, 2015 at 12:01 pm
I think the reverse is true as well, with women doing man’s voices, or “dude voices” as I call them.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:14 pm
The skipping back is my biggest complaint, though I’ve found that a lot of apps have started to incorporate a quick 15 or 30-second “jump back” option in a one-click button type style. Audible has this (on Android in the US, at any rate) as does OverDrive, now.
And on the man doing a female voice (or vice versa), that usually is ok for me until it starts to feel forced, or like a caricature in some way. Some narrators are DEFINITELY better at it than others…
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June 8, 2015 at 7:11 pm
Agreed. I dislike the falsetto some male narrators use. I feel like dialogue needs to be kept gender neutral. Having said that, I do love a narrator that can do accents!
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June 8, 2015 at 4:10 am
I really do try to do audio books. I love podcasts and thought I’d love audio books too, but they don’t often work for me. I tend to lean more towards non fiction, but even so the narrator’s voice doesn’t always work for me. They often sound too wistful or something.
I agree with April, listening to books seems more passive – at least for me. And I often tune out or fall asleep. When I walk with an audio book I’ll end up at my destination and realize that i didn’t really hear a word of the book.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:40 am
I thought April and Monika’s comments about listening being passive vs active were interesting, and I think they’re both right. Listening feels more passive than reading, but I think “properly” listening is much more active, because it is easier to get distracted. But if I were going to sit down and actively listen with no distractions… well, I’d rather just pick up the book instead.
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June 8, 2015 at 7:50 pm
Perhaps that’s why I use it for ‘harder’ books for me… like The Count of the Monte Cristo – it boils down to books I feel like I should read – but don’t care if I miss plot points or descriptions here and there. 😉
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June 8, 2015 at 8:58 pm
hahaha I love that point.
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June 8, 2015 at 5:52 am
I’m intrigued by audiobooks but the problem of tuning out and missing things really bothers me. Also, usually reading to myself is much faster than the spoken word, and I get impatient with the slowness. Another problem is the voice — I once tried to listen to a Trollope novel and though the narrator was accomplished, it was too weird to me when he did the female voices. I couldn’t get past that.
I think that memoirs read by the author would be an ideal use of the form. I listed to Brown Girl Dreaming by Jacqueline Woodson and it was very moving to hear her read her own story.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:35 am
Oh yes, I totally forgot about the time issue! It is SO slow compared to reading! Once I listened to a book when I was taking a long drive by myself (a very rare occurrence). When I got home after a good 3.5 hours of driving time, I felt like I’d barely made a dent in the book! I know some people have said that adjusting the speed can help, but I didn’t have that option at the time.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:49 am
Audible (the only way I have attempted audiobooks) allows for upping the speed. Sometimes a book because of narrator and pacing, will be perfect for me at 2x! but usually I’m a 1.5x speed listener. FYI
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June 8, 2015 at 8:58 pm
Oh goodness, the slowness drives me nuts. I have to speed it up. I’m usually a 1.5x listener, like Care.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:47 am
I was reading the Game of Thrones books when I had an hour long commute and thought it might help me work my way through them if I listened to the audio in the car and picked up reading when I got home. I was always SHOCKED by how little two hours of listening was in terms of pages.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:20 pm
It IS slow. Audible (and now OverDrive!) do have options to speed up to listen at 1.25x or 1.5x (or even 2x, but that never works for me) the originally recorded speed, which I love — sometimes narrators speaaaakkk waaayyy tooooo slooooowlyyyyy foooorrrr myyyyy tasssstteeee.
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June 8, 2015 at 3:44 pm
YESSSSS I almost always listen on at least 1.25 speed, and sometimes even 1.5 depending. The only time I struggle with it speeded up if the narrator has an accent, then sometimes I can only listen in real time.
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June 8, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Yes, I was so glad to see Overdrive now has this option. I don’t enjoy audiobooks nearly enough to spend money on them, so the library it is for me.
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June 8, 2015 at 7:14 am
I have listened to 6-7 audiobooks and probably won’t listen to any more other than memoirs read by the authors (Yes Please seems to be one everyone recommends) or perhaps nonfiction. As others have stated, even listening while driving there are still times when I ‘space out’ and miss parts. Also, I believe I am voice sensitive, so that the narrator’s voice qualities really affect my resonance with the story. That makes yet another layer of ‘interpretation,’ much as when a book is turned into a movie, and I don’t like that. I want only MY interpretation, so I read rather than listen. Reading is my firsthand experience with a story and I definitely prefer it that way. I rather envy those who enjoy audiobooks, ’cause it would be one way to “read” more…
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June 8, 2015 at 8:00 am
I love audiobooks and in the last few years have upped my reading totals considerably. In earlier years, I only used audio in the car, of course, because first there were the tapes and then the cd’s. I’ve listened to the whole Harry Potter story more than once on audio. I do understand what people say about spacing out on the story or getting distracted while driving or whatever and so, to combat that, I used to only listen to books that I had already read and enjoyed. That way, audiobooks became a kind of treat for me. A fun way to reread a favorite. And then came Audible and being able to listen with my phone and now Bluetooth in my car and wireless headphones and, and….and it’s so fun.
I guess I perfected my listening ear and am now able to listen and pay attention to almost anything. So, I can go with books that are new to me. I’ve found that certain nonfiction is easy for me to listen to and I’m not a big nonfic reader. Some mystery series seem to work well for me, probably because I like the narrator. I’ve listened to all of Susan Hill’s crime series this year with Steven Pacey as the narrator. Loved it. I do have a few narrators that have bugged me for some reason. Usually it’s how they do the opposite gender’s voices, but sometimes it’s accents. If I like the book, I try to switch to print. I now listen while I do all kinds of things – folding laundry, cooking, exercising, pulling weeds. My kiddo is grown, so I don’t have the distraction of young children anymore. And we live in the country now and my trips to really anywhere are at least 20 minutes long. Lots of listening time. This year, I’ve listened to almost as many books as I’ve read. For me, audio is great.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:30 am
In the cases when you’ve switched from audio to print, have you ever noticed that your opinion on a character or situation changed? Or have you ever re-read a book in a different format and had a different opinion? I’m really curious how format can change our opinions on books, but I don’t read audiobooks enough to really see the results play out.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:19 pm
I’ve only switched from audio to print when a narrator or narration style really doesn’t work for me, so I don’t know that opinions about a character or situation has changed, but I know that my opinion of a book overall has changed (California by Edan Lepucki really didn’t work for me on audio–the narrator sounded bored to me, but I liked the e-book; I also just started Queen of the Tearling on audio and abandoned after an hour or so because the narrator sounded way too old to be portraying the story of a young girl).
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June 8, 2015 at 3:14 pm
I don’t know that my opinion of a character has changed hugely but I’ve been able to continue reading the book. For example, I listened to the first book in a mystery series earlier this year and the narrator’s (a man) female voices were awful. I could not stand them. I switched to print and enjoyed the rest of the book a lot. I don’t force myself to finish a book that isn’t working for me, but I thought it was worth a shot to make sure it was the narrator and not the book. It was. Another example is of a narrator that spoke with an American accent for the narrative that was not conversation and with a Danish accent for all the ‘talking’ parts. It drove me to distraction. I still haven’t gone back and finished the book, even though I liked it well enough.
And, yes, I did try to listen to a favorite historical romance that I had read years ago and loved. It finally came out on audio and I was so excited. The narrator’s voice kind of squeaked and lisped or something. It was very, very annoying. I actually returned that book to Audible and told them why. I think a better narrator would have been fine.
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June 8, 2015 at 8:38 am
I never listen to audiobooks. I always think it would be great, but I am a bit of a daydreamer, and I suspect that I would miss a lot of the action and have to go back and re-listen. I even do this when I’m reading sometimes, but it’s easy to go back a few paragraphs in a book. I don’t have a lot of audiobook-listening time (such as commuting), so whenever I get a few extra minutes to read, I just pick up my real book. The only time I can think of that I could listen to a book is when I’m walking, but that’s the only time of day that I can just let my mind wander wherever it wants, and I’m not willing to give that up.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:30 am
Yup, I’m a daydreamer too. And you’re right, it’s so much easier to just back up a few paragraphs when that happens with a real book. Also, like you, I never had that much time where audio would be more convenient than actually reading, but that’s begun to change, so I have a feeling there will be more audiobooks in my future. I just have to pick the right books so it doesn’t matter too much if I drift off.
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June 8, 2015 at 9:27 am
I don’t listen to audiobooks very often (like Shannon, podcasts have taken over my listening time), but I much prefer listening to non-fiction. I think the writing tends to be more straightforward; when there are long descriptions in fiction, I tend to get distracted and lose focus. I also just like listening to someone teach me things! And if I do drift off while listening to non-fiction, it doesn’t matter as much; I haven’t missed plot points.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:29 am
Yes, the plot points! This is my main hangup with audiobooks because I’m just not a great multitasker and I always miss things.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:33 am
This is exactly why I can’t really do fiction on audio. Most of the time I’ve tried it while driving and I just get too distracted – I miss too much!
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June 8, 2015 at 9:31 am
I started listening to audiobooks last summer when the kids I babysat were involved in a lot of activities that required tons of driving. We usually read in the summer at their house and so I bought some audiobooks and I ended up loving them more then they did!
Listening to audiobooks has allowed me to read three times as much as I normally could with reading. I usually have two audiobooks in the car at all times and two on my audible app. And in the year I’ve listened to audiobooks I guestimate that I’ve listened to at least 25 EXTRA books and I am still able to read the same amount of books in print. I mainly listen in the car and doing housework.
Also, I totally agree that a narrator can ruin the reading experience. I do not hesitate to stop an audiobook if I don’t like the narrator’s voice. But I find that “hard books” become harder on audiobooks. I need footnotes and sometimes I need to re-read a sentence a couple of times before I understand it. In these cases audiobooks don’t do well for me. For example, I tried to listen to Jane Eyre but there are so many French sentences that I had to turn it off because I don’t know French and I couldn’t look them up while driving or read the footnotes that would be in the printed book.
Overall, I’m a huge fan of audiobooks!!
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June 8, 2015 at 7:04 pm
Agreed- I forgot about difficult books! If it is something that involves shifting time or perspective than I prefer reading because I can flip back to find what I need to find. A greta example of this is The Orphanmaster’s Son. There was so much going on in this amazing book that it took me a long time to settle into it on audio and yet once I did, I loved the various accents. Plus, it is really long so can cover a month’s worth of dreary commutes!
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June 8, 2015 at 9:36 am
I love audio books. I have been listening since cassettes from the library days. Then to CDs now I just download them. The narrator is key. I know there are times the narrator has made the book more enjoyable. There are definitely times I couldn’t listen because of no inflection (or too much) but a great speaker really is, well, great. I get people drift off but I don’t know how any time I’ve been reading an actual book when I realize I have no idea what I just read and have to go back and reread the last page or so. I listen on my iPhone and just hit the back 15 seconds button a few times to readjust. I know I can get a good extra 10-13 books or so in a year through audio. I have no real preference either. I’ve done fiction, non fiction and classics. Yup, Count of Monte Cristo on audio was over 40 hours! I’m the person that really does listen while folding laundry, emptying the dishwasher, putting on my makeup in the morning. All those 15 mins add up. I’ve heard the criticism that it’s not really reading and think thats ridiculous. I figure, reading aloud to my kids counts for them, so someone reading aloud to me should count too! Hey, any way to get more book read is a good thing!
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June 8, 2015 at 10:27 am
Even though they’re not really my cup of tea, I totally agree that you can’t really argue for audiobooks not being “real” reading. I doubt someone making that argument would tell a person with a visual impairment they weren’t “really reading”.
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June 8, 2015 at 12:27 pm
I wouldn’t say that audiobooks aren’t “really reading” for most people, but they don’t feel like reading for me. They just don’t quench my “I need to go read for awhile” cravings…they just don’t do the same thing for me that books do. But again, I don’t consider other people who listen to a lot of audio as “not reading”.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:12 pm
Agreed completely with you on “real” reading–reading is reading, no matter how you choose to go about it. No one questions reading aloud to each other as reading, so why would audiobooks be any different?
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June 8, 2015 at 7:09 pm
Cassettes!! Yes! I had forgotten those- and how you had to worry about them in the car in the summer or getting stuck in your tape deck. And those massive clunky cases they came in which was also plastic and would warp. Wow. I am old.
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June 8, 2015 at 10:26 am
Only in the last year or so have I started giving audio a chance, and only in the last couple months (since the little man was born) have I really made the decision that these will be a regular part of my reading now. But drifting off is definitely a concern. I think for me they will be mostly for re-reads I just don’t have the time for now that my reading has taken such a hit, with the occasional celebrity memoir.
My first complete audiobook was Ellen DeGeneres’s Seriously I’m Kidding. It was highly enjoyable, and while I know there are things I missed because of doing other things, I don’t feel like it negatively impacted my overall experience. Whereas something with a plot, I’d feel the need to back up and re-listen, and it would just get too frustrating (unless, in the case of a re-read, I already know the plot).
And yes, narrators are so important. The first audiobook I tried listening to was Harry Potter, and I know lots of people LOVE Jim Dale, but to me, his voices for a lot of the characters were just so distracting. (I’d be curious to try the UK version to see if I’d enjoy Stephen Fry’s reading better.)
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June 8, 2015 at 10:52 am
I am new to audiobooks with the advent of the smartphone and plugging into the car radio. But mostly I wanted to ‘read’ while mowing the lawn and I thank the iphone and Audible for giving me many awesome listening opportunities. I don’t think I would have enjoyed Moby Dick half as much if I had read it – and yes, drifting off in Moby Dick was JUST FINE. I could say I listened only to the best parts. (if you’ve read it, you understand?) But some books ARE better on audio, I think. Beautiful Ruins is one book I can think of that people who read the print said they didn’t like but everyone who listened to it, loved it! I also think audiobooks are helping me with auditory learning – I am much more visual but I want to be a better listener.
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June 8, 2015 at 11:58 am
So much to discuss here!
1. I completely agree with Catherine regarding non-fiction. I have always had a time reading non-fiction, even if it’s a topic of interest to me. Enter audiobooks, and I am able to sit back, listen, and learn! It’s been great in getting some non-fiction pieces into the rotation.
2. I completely agree with April regarding experiencing memoirs via audio, as it just seems to bring the whole thing to life a bit more, and I feel like I get to experience the story the way it is intended by the author. Great examples in addition to Poehler’s Yes Please, are Mindy Kaling’s book, and Brown Girl Dreaming.
3. I am picky about what I chose to listen to on audio. Books that jump between multiple characters, and multiple points in time are just too confusing, and, in my opinion, don’t translate well to audio. I definitely enjoy listening to fiction on audio, it just has to be a little more straightforward.
4. Narration is key. I’ve listening to audiobooks with excellent narrators, but just so-so stories (i.e. The Miniaturist), and also great stories, with annoying narration. One thing I really love is if the story is told in a few perspectives, that there are different narrators for each (i.e. Swamplandia!), which helps keep everything straight.
5. Doing “voices.” This is such a case by case thing, because some narrators are highly skilled at doing voices (i.e. Kate Winslet in Matilda), which others are SO NOT (i.e. dude voice in The Burgess Boys).
6. At the end of the day, I have deep and profound love for audiobooks in general, and I like how it allows me to get more reading done. It’s definitely not the same as “reading” but I still consider it “reading,” if that makes ANY sense at all.
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June 8, 2015 at 12:25 pm
I’m with Shannon in that I get very easily distracted while listening to audiobooks and have moved more in the podcast direction. I never really listened to audiobooks before last year when I was training for a half marathon and I did listen to a couple while running. But, I never really loved any of them and still am not sure if I would have loved some of those books if I’d read them instead. I’ve tried fiction (plot driven, fast pace works best for me), humor essays (Poehler and Seders), and nonfiction. None has truly hit the mark.
But – I do wonder if your love of audiobooks has something to do with what type of learner you are. I’m a visual/tactile learner (but mostly visual) and learning things through audio is the toughest for me. I don’t retain much.
Any auditory learners out there? How do you feel about audiobooks?
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June 8, 2015 at 1:17 pm
I tried audiobooks while training for a half in years past, and that didn’t really work for me–I ended up not following or liking most of the books I was listening to (and not loving the runs, either). I was better switching between podcasts and music for really long runs, and just sticking with music for shorter runs.
Interesting question about learning types. I’m more of a visual learner as well, which is maybe why non-fiction on audio doesn’t usually work for me.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:21 pm
The learning style question is really interesting – I’m a very visual learner, so in that sense it doesn’t surprise me that audio doesn’t work as well for me.
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June 8, 2015 at 3:27 pm
My daughter was tested for learning style before she went to nursing school. She came out as almost total auditory learner. Which made sense to us. She loved to have me read to her when she was growing up, even when she in her teens. She loves, loves, loves audiobooks and actually reads very little in print. I’m more visual in style, but I think that I kind of ‘taught’ myself to enjoy audiobooks over a period of time. I can do non-fiction that way, but it takes a lot more concentration and interest on my part.
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June 8, 2015 at 1:04 pm
Historically I was unable to do audiobooks. My mind spins off in too many directions, my driving and walking time have always been my thinking time. So it was always too hard to pay attention. Since our offices moved and I had to start driving to work, I decided to give it another try with more effort. I’ve found it is a habit that can be learned, though I’m still fairly bad at it. Thus I use audio to fill in books I might not otherwise get to or to try something new. If it’s a book I really want to dig into and get to know, I have to read it visually. I still miss parts of audiobooks, even those I’m enjoying. But I’ve also discovered some great books, even series that I’ve continued, via audio that I would have missed otherwise.
I agree that there are certain books that lend themselves to audio. I would include biographies in that category, particularly if read by the author. I listened to Alan Cumming’s bio (something I never would have picked up otherwise; I’m not a huge fan, but have enjoyed his work and it was available at the library – plus the cover drew me in) and it was fabulous. So I use audiobooks as a discover and entertainment tool, but not for books I want to sink my teeth into.
Question for those of you who review from audiobooks – what do you do about passages? It’s such a hassle to stop what you’re doing (particularly if driving) to bookmark, then have to come back and transcribe. Am I missing something? This is another reason I don’t do audio for books I think I’ll want to review.
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June 9, 2015 at 8:10 am
The passages part is hard! One of the biggest challenges I have with audiobooks. But I do often find that the passages I like are ones that other people do too, so I’ll check on GoodReads Quotes to see if someone’s already transcribed the quote. It’s not always there – but there are usually a lot there, so it cuts down on transcribing work.
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June 9, 2015 at 9:41 am
I just signed up for Goodreads again last week, so I will check out this feature next time. Thanks for the tip!
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June 8, 2015 at 1:24 pm
I think this conversation is fascinating! Like Catherine, I got into audiobooks primarily for my long commute when I moved out of NYC and realized that I was now missing out on all of my subway reading. It took me a while to “train” my brain to learn how to listen to a book and not let my mind wander; even now, I can listen and do some activities (drive down a straight highway, my daily commute to/from work, fold laundry, do dishes) but can’t listen and do other things (work out/run, drive anywhere that requires directions or reading road signs, organize the house, file). But it took about a year to learn what I could/could not listen to, when I could focus (or not) and how to listen actively to a story without wandering off.
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June 8, 2015 at 2:01 pm
I listened to my first audio book in January of this year, and I can’t believe that I haven’t been doing this for years. I have about an hour alone in the car on workdays (before picking up from daycare) and much as I love the CBC Radio 2 morning & drive time shows, listening to a story is SO much better than flipping between stations to avoid that annoying song or ad (radio ads: the worst.) I always have one on the go now, and only fiction (so far.)
I have to disagree with April about there being nothing better about fiction on audio vs print. In the case of Zadie Smith’s NW, having the accents helped a lot. I thought I knew what Northern London English sounds like from watching Coronation Street but, no. Having scenes with lots of dialog read aloud helped me understand the timing and rhythm. And was fun! Similarly with Wolf Hall, the narrator was SO excellent as he interpreted Anne Bolyn’s fake French accent. And apart from accents, in Where’d You Go Bernadette, the outrage and frustration in the narrator’s voice helped me understand Bernadette more. I wouldn’t have “read” in that much frustration, if that makes sense. Taking it over the top improved the reading experience.
You could argue this all takes away from my own interpretation and imagination, but as long as you’re a thoughtful reader, I don’t think it does. I understand these readings where partly the author’s story (the actual words,) partly the narrator’s interpretation (where to put emphasis, accents, etc.) and partly my own interpretation of both those things. It’s another layer and another thing to consider.
What I have not done yet is review an audio book. Putting that on the list!
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June 9, 2015 at 7:09 am
I completely agree about the accents, ‘The Great Gatsby’ never worked for me until I tried it as an audio book. Suddenly, it all fell into place. I’m still more a visual than an audio person, but in the case of accents I find it so useful. I’m the kind of person who might listen to an extract of Faulker before reading one of his books in order to get the accent in my head
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June 8, 2015 at 2:46 pm
I never went for audiobooks until I was sick of my music on my iPod and had a long drive to get through a couple summers ago. Now audiobooks are my go-to listening for road trips (or anytime I know I’ll be in the car for 20+ minutes at a time), and they’re starting to creep into my day-to-day too, like during exercising or cooking. Non-fiction is best for me, I find it very engaging. Right now I’m listening to Bryan Stephenson’s Just Mercy, about the US’s corrupt justice system, read by the author, and it’s fascinating. I also loved Marc Maron’s Attempting Normal last month, and Elizabeth Warren’s A Fighting Chance last year, both read by the authors.
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June 8, 2015 at 5:11 pm
I’ve always loved audiobooks, but in the past I gravitated to Non Fiction more than Fiction – it was usually easier to follow along with on audio. But in the past few years (I think starting with The Lord of the Rings) I have started doing “Readalongs” (for lack of a better name), where I listen to the audiobook with a print copy of the book in my hands, reading along. This was quite a change from my former audiobook habits – when I listened while cleaning or walking or other tasks. I found that I LOVE the time just sitting and listening along, and having the book in my hands helps me follow along better. Sometimes I’ll get up to make a drink or something, and I won’t shut off the audio, I just flip forward in the print copy when I get back to catch up. But the majority of my listening time, I’m in a chair with the book. Reading this way helps me focus, listen/read for longer periods of time, and slow down and enjoy the book more. I definitely don’t do this with every book, but it’s particularly good for classics or dense novels. I still listen to Non-fiction audiobooks while running around doing chores and errands, but if I go too long without a “readalong” of a dense fiction novel, I find I begin to crave it!
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June 8, 2015 at 5:48 pm
This is a great idea, and definitely something I might consider for some of the classics (which have never really been my thing). For most books, the slow pace would just annoy me, but they might be just what I need for getting through that old fashioned language.
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June 8, 2015 at 6:49 pm
I hope you enjoy it too! It’s how I got through Moby Dick and Crime and Punishment. A good narrator is KEY. Sometimes if the slower pace bothers me I might pause the audiobook and just read a chapter or two, and then skip the audio ahead, but most of the time I’m surprisingly content to just listen and read along.
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June 8, 2015 at 7:44 pm
That’s one of the reasons that I love the Audible app, you can speed it up to as much as 3x the normal speed. I listen to most of my books at 1.25x the speed to 1.5x.
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June 8, 2015 at 7:58 pm
That’s such an awesome idea…I love the thought of doing it with classics.
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June 15, 2015 at 11:21 am
This does sound like fun! I think it could help me audiobook without distractions. Like April, I think I’d have to speed it up though. Otherwise it would slow me down enough to be very frustrating!
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June 9, 2015 at 12:51 pm
I had a personal “aha” moment while reading this post. I never listened to an audio book until last year when it was the only option available for The Miniaturist and really enjoyed it. But then I’ve had more misses than success. My aha is that I struggle greatly with reading nonfiction unless it is a memoir and struggle with fiction via audio. Maybe I need to switch it up since I listen to mostly podcasts and in the same vein as NF.
Also, I think audiobooks vary depending on the narrator, the voices they use, the mood and I can’t stand how slow I progress listening. I do speed it up but then it sounds weird. I am actually listening to The Orphan Masters Son and reading it at the same time to see if that helps me get through the book.
Oh…and I dislike greatly that I can’t flag in audiobooks. :(((
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June 9, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Ohhh Marisa, you know, this is a great point. I’m always wanting to get into reading fantasy, but I have the worst luck with it. Maybe I need to try that genre on audiobook instead and see what happens.
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June 13, 2015 at 10:22 pm
I’ve been listening to audiobooks for the past two years or so since I’ve started having a long commute to work and I love it. After starting to listen to a book on audio, I have a hard time going back to reading the physical book because I miss the richness of the character’s voices.
Personally, I think listening to audiobooks can be at least as good of an experience as reading the book and I don’t think someone who only listened to audiobooks would necessarily be missing out on anything. Well, unless they have a bad narrator. I think an annoying narrator really can ruin the book, making the physical version far superior. At the same time, I do typically audiobook while doing something else and suspect other people mostly do to, so perhaps we really do miss out by giving audiobooks less of our attention. I don’t think it’s a problem inherent to the format though, just to how I use it.
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June 14, 2015 at 12:46 pm
That’s a great point about how the format is used, and I think Emily (who commented down below) explained how you can use audio and print together to really enhance reading in a great way.
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